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    complaining – ‘I wish I didn’t have to go back to work’; ‘I’m so mad I have to work tonight’ – that I feel like inadvertently they’re going to be layabouts on government assistance. When Alice was small, I would bring her to the 30 Rock set because I wanted to show her why being famous is the least important part of anything; it’s a by-product. The making of a story, creating characters, building sets – these are the really cool parts. Because this society is raising children who want to be famous for nothing, to just have followers.”

    “I shielded the girls from [fame] for a while, but then I spoke to a school psychologist and she was really helpful. She said, ‘I’ll tell you the same thing I tell wealthy people, that you can say [to your kids]: Yes, this is something that I have. And it’s mine. It’s not yours.’ Like if it was money you would tell them, ‘Yes, we have lots of money, but I earned it, and it’s mine. And someday you may have yours…’

    less than (in high school, everyone feels less than everyone else for different reasons), in your mind it’s a way of leveling the playing field. Though of course it’s not. Saying something terrible about someone else does not actually level the playing field. If I meet a girl of 14 or 15 today who is that kind of girl, I am secretly, in my body, afraid. Even though I’m 45.”

    “I try to show Alice and Penelope patience and generosity – patience I fall short on – and that they can be working women and have a family. And yet – I joke about this with my husband – we spend so much time in front of them

    “I was the MEAN Girl [in school], I admit it. If I meet a GIRL today who is like that, I’m afraid. Even THOUGH I’m 45”

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